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Hi, all.
Happy August. Hope you're enjoying your summer. One week from today I will be in San Francisco, visiting friends and getting ready to start my train trip across America! Although I'm really psyched about the train trip, the very best part is that I'll get to see friends I don't get to see often! Can't wait!
A few weeks ago Jeffrey Asher did a wonderful job answering questions about Pooled Income Trusts for both my July 30th radio show and the AgeWiseLiving newsletter. Since then, a long-time friend of AgeWiseLiving, Gideon Schein of Eddy & Schein In-Home Administrators for Seniors (www.eddyandschein.com), asked if he might add some information. Because I want to be sure to provide the most information possible, this week's article includes the original answers along with some additional information and some clarification below the answers. Thanks, Gideon.
BTW -- I've scheduled the first of the next 13 weeks of my radio show -- Age Wise Living -- on VoiceAmerica.com. The first show back will be Surviving Eldercare on September 1st at 10a Eastern time. Hope you can be there.
Off to continue packing . . . Till next week, carpe diem!


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ARTICLE: Pooled Income Trusts Updated
Where does a person find a Pooled Income Trust?
Pooled Income Trusts must be sponsored and administered by a not-for-profit organization. So, organizations such as NYSARC and UJA will offer a Pooled Income or Pooled Asset Trust service. However, local charities may offer their own Pooled Income Trusts. An internet search for Pooled Income Trusts in the local geographic area may help find charitable organizations offering Pooled Income Trusts. Otherwise, a telephone call to the local Medicaid office may also help locate local organizations offering Pooled Income Trusts. Of course, not all states will offer a Pooled Income Trust so a thorough search is wise.
How do they get started with a Pooled Income Trust?
The first step in any Pooled Income Trust is contacting the not-for-profit organization offering the Pooled Income Trust. Each organization will have its own forms and procedures for registering with the Trust, and joining the pool of other Medicaid applicants. The second step in the registration process is completing any and all forms required by the organizations, and paying any fees associated with registering with the Trust.
However, it is recommended that you confer with with an Elder Law attorney to negotiate this trust to discuss allowable pre-Medicaid transfers of assets, Medicaid eligibility and application, etc.
Are there fees for setting up a Pooled Income Trust?
Yes. Each not-for-profit organization may have its own separate fees for the enrollment, maintenance, and administration of the Pooled Income Trust. A comparison of the not-for-profit organizations offering Pooled Income Trusts in your local area may be a prudent attempt to minimize the fees involved. But these fees are typically very small compared to the enormous benefit given by the Pooled Income Trust.
The fees however, are not nearly as small as they once used to be, and so it is worth comparison shopping.
The client theoretically also earns interest on the balance in the trust, but that interest is not generally considered income because it is offset by the not-so-insignificant fees.
What bills can be paid with a Pooled Income Trust?
Generally, the Pooled Income Trust will pay expenses for food, clothing, shelter, and basic health care costs of the Medicaid applicant. However, as long as the expense is reasonable for the individual's care and comfort, then the Pooled Income Trust should not hesitate to pay the bill. Moreover, the bills submitted to the Pooled Income Trusts do not necessarily have to be paid by the Medicaid application, but may be paid to or for his or her benefit by a family member or other caregiver.
Clarification on paying "basic medical costs": If we are talking about a senior the process is as follows: Assuming it is a Medicare Cost they are the first payee, the 20% that Medicare does not cover goes to the supplementary insurance carrier and the balance is then submitted to and paid by what is allowable by Medicaid. In New York State, a person is currently allowed to keep $787/month in income and maintain a checkbook balance of up to $13,000.
However, the not-for-profit organization itself may have policies for not paying for certain expenses, such as for alcohol, cigarettes, etc.
What happens to income left over at the end of the month?
Generally, a Pooled Income Trust is set up to expend all of the Medicaid recipient's income for the month such that nothing is left over at the end of the month. Because an individual may keep a certain amount of money without having to "spend down" the excess, the Pooled Income Trust is set up to pay out every bit of that excess. For example, imagine a person has $1,787 a month in income. However, the local Medicaid law only allows them to keep $787 a month in income. Now, imagine further that the individual has $1,500 a month in expenses. The Pooled Income Trust would be created and funded with the $1,000 of excess income, leaving the individual with the $787 he or she is allowed to keep. Each month, the individual would send to the Pooled Income Trust all of the bills to be paid, together with the $1,000 of excess income as well as $500 of the individual's retained income. In that case, all of the bills would be paid, the individual would retain $287 a month in income, and the Pooled Income Trust would be left with nothing at the end of the month.
Clarification of what is and what is not allowable regarding "surplus income" that would eventually go to the Pooled Trust: The way that amount is determined works as follows: You start with the monthly *gross* income: e.g. Social Security, Pensions, interest or dividends on Irrevocable Trusts (Although this gets a little complicated), etc. Let's say that amount is $3,000/month. From that you deduct the $787 in income you are allowed to keep, the cost of your Medicare Part B premium, usually $96.40, and the monthly cost of your secondary insurance, which for our example let's say $300/month. So, the amount of "surplus income" you would send to the trust is $1,817.
What happens when the person passes away?
When the person passes away, his or her remaining principal and/or income in the Pooled Income Trust would be retained by the Pooled Income Trust. That is typically one of the conditions of setting up a Pooled Income Trust, and one that is rather universally required from each of the not-for-profit organizations sponsoring a Pooled Income Trust.
Remember, if you're struggling to help your aging loved one, I urge you not to wait for a crisis to develop. Please call me toll-free at (877) AGE-WISE or email me at Barbara@AgeWiseLiving.com for a complimentary "get acquainted" conversation. I'm here to help!
Gideon Schein was a producer, director, and writer for the theatre, opera, music theatre, film and television for over 25 years. He is a founding partner of Eddy & Schein In-Home Administrators for Seniors, He and his partner, Rebecca Eddy, work with senior citizens, helping them administratively, financially and organizationally. In addition, they build the team of professionals that will fill out the needs of their senior clients. He has a BA from Oberlin College, an MA from University of Minnesota and an MBA from Columbia University and is a Professional Daily Money Manager, certified by AADMM (The American Association of Daily Money Managers. www.eddyandschein.com

September 1st Age Wise Living Radio Show
Surviving Eldercare
Many of us - especially Baby Boomer women - have been raised to believe our job is to take care of our family's needs, including those of our aging parents. It's easy to lose sight of ourselves during the process of caregiving. We so often feel that we shouldn't complain. After all, they're our parents and we have a duty to them. Finding the balance between eldercare and the rest of our lives is critical. That's why I'm so delighted that life coach and writer Ellen Besso will be joining us to help us understand how eldercare affects every aspect of our life - and how to find the balance. http://www.ellenbesso.com

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